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by Mark Anthony Dyson

Removing Bias From Hiring with Melissa Dobbins

Removing Bias From Hiring with Melissa Dobbins
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Removing bias from the hiring process is quite a task considering those who are still asking why. My guest this episode is Melissa Dobbins, founder, and CEO of career.place, whose purpose is to remove bias from hiring. She states on her website that she is “…radically reshaping the hiring process through the synthesis of science and technology…” Her goal is to show hiring companies how to remove bias from the hiring process.

You are more than welcome to join the discussion. Here are three ways you can:

– Call and leave a voicemail at 708-365-9822, or text your comments to the same number
– Go to TheVoiceofJobSeekers.com, press the “Send Voicemail” button on the right side of your screen and leave a message
– Send email feedback to [email protected]

More about Melissa:
Through a SaaS-based offering, my company provides a fresh approach that is unbiased and focuses on what matters most when hiring talent. Career.Place removes bias from the hiring process by not relying on the resume as the beginning piece of the hiring equation. Instead, career.place’s solution asks a series of questions from salary desired to take assessments, allowing only those qualified to advance.
She has been in product management for many years including her last position as a vice president.

Here are highlights from our discussion:

  • Melissa is influenced by her experience working with highly diverse successful teams and homogenous teams oblivious to bias
  • In her experience, homogenous teams was a vacuum of creativity because everyone thought alike
  • She says that diversity and inclusion positions and teams achieved a good start
  • Removing bias from the hiring process will mean removing the identities of the individuals from the eyes of employers
  • The focus for employers is to focus on what individuals can do and the requirements to do the job, and everyone is treated fairly
  • We discuss racists vs. bias and how much of a challenge it is in the process – “No one wants to look in the mirror and think they are part of the problem.”
  • Melissa says, “Bias is the human shortcut.”
  • There needs to be more than blocking out the name on a resume to rid of bias in the hiring process

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About Mark Anthony Dyson

I am the "The Voice of Job Seekers!" I offer compassionate career and job search advice as I hack and re-imagine the job search process. You need to be "the prescription to an employer's job description." You must be solution-oriented and work in positions in companies where you are the remedy. Your job search must be a lifestyle, and your career must be in front of you constantly. You can no longer shed your aspirations at the change seasons. There are strengths you have that need constant use and development. Be sure you sign up to download my E-Book, "421 Modern Job Search Tips 2021!" You can find my career advice and work in media outlets such as Forbes, Inc., Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, Glassdoor, and many other outlets.

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How Students, Grads, and Young Careerists Can Mitigate Bias

How Students, Grads, and Young Careerists Can Mitigate Bias
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Thanks so much for your interest in this episode. Bias has different faces, sizes, complexities, and issues, and it’s hard to talk about them in one episode. Sheila Caldwell, Ed. D. is the Advisor to the President on Diversity at the University of North Georgia. She is the eyes and ears for the University on all things for diversity and inclusion and reports directly to the President of the University. I was happy she agreed to come on and share her journey in mitigating bias as well as the university students.

Join in on the conversation

  • Call and leave a voicemail at 708-365-9822, or text your comments to the same number
  • Go to TheVoiceofJobSeekers.com, press the “Send Voicemail” button on the right side of your screen and leave a message
  • Send email feedback to [email protected]

More about Sheila Caldwell

Sheila recently received her doctorate of education in workforce education. She has completed a certification program at the Harvard Kennedy School of Busines for “Strategies for Building and Leading Diverse Organizations Executive Education program.” Sheila is actively involved in working with students and staff in making the University of North Georgia inclusive and safe for all.

Few highlights from our conversation

  • Bias occurs in the workforce and college campuses but manifests differently in their respective environments
  • Students must gain a strong identity of self to endure the narrow perspectives fellow students and coworkers will have
  • Colleges are trying to do a better job in preparing students for the workforce diversity
  • Students needing to feel a belonging at a diverse university while combating bias
  • Sheila shares the latest reports of graduates show money, not intelligence, is a primary reason for students of color not finishing a degree
  • Sheila discusses how women dominate the graduate rates yet not enough women are STEM and engineering majors in college
  • How bias includes cultural appropriation and how it affects campus and the workplace

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About Mark Anthony Dyson

I am the "The Voice of Job Seekers!" I offer compassionate career and job search advice as I hack and re-imagine the job search process. You need to be "the prescription to an employer's job description." You must be solution-oriented and work in positions in companies where you are the remedy. Your job search must be a lifestyle, and your career must be in front of you constantly. You can no longer shed your aspirations at the change seasons. There are strengths you have that need constant use and development. Be sure you sign up to download my E-Book, "421 Modern Job Search Tips 2021!" You can find my career advice and work in media outlets such as Forbes, Inc., Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, Glassdoor, and many other outlets.

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How Unconscious Biases Can Hurt Job Seekers Before the Interview Even Begins

How Unconscious Biases Can Hurt Job Seekers Before the Interview Even Begins

Rarely do employers intend to debilitate job candidates – but it happens anyway.

Many job seekers are hamstrung way before their resumes have a chance to stand on their accomplishments or merits. This anomaly occurs when the person screening the candidates applies their personal biases.

The University of California, San Francisco, Office of Diversity and Outreach defines unconscious bias as “social stereotypes about particular groups of people that individuals form outside their conscious awareness.”

Bias affects everyone’s decisions, including during the hiring process.

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Unconscious bias can lead to “microaggressions,” described by Psychology Today as “the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership.”

Many job seekers, especially those from marginalized groups, deal with microaggressions and unconscious biases daily.

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They are tough, resilient, and courageous in the face of these experiences. Workplaces that welcome these character traits will likely benefit from having these job seekers on board – as long as bias doesn’t stand in the way of hiring them.

Listen to Unconscious Bias: Your Career, Workplace, and Everywhere

Some Types of Biases Job Seekers Face:

  1. Bias Toward the Unemployed: Some employers refuse to hire applicants who are unemployed. However, many unemployed and underemployed job seekers are talented and qualified. Often, they have lost their previous jobs due to reasons beyond their control, like downsizing.
  2. Bias Toward ‘Ethnic’ Fashions: For example, there have been instances where job seekers are terminated or denied job offers by wearing their hair in dreadlocks, a style was traditionally worn by black people. In fact, courts have upheld an employer’s right to do this. Whether I wear dreadlocks or not, it feels like an attack because of my ethnicity.
  3. Bias Toward Names: Name bias occurs when an employer rejects a candidate based on the way their name sounds – usually because the company perceives the candidate’s name to appear “ethnic.” I experienced this in action when working with a woman named Latoya several years ago. Her resume was great – an engineering graduate with honors, many internships, and volunteer positions to prove her competencies – but she received very little response. While tweaking her resume, we changed her name to the family nickname, “Toni.” As a result, she has made several advancements in her career.
  4. Bias Toward Addresses: Some hiring managers discriminate against candidates whose address associated with lower-income areas. I knew a manager who would ask candidates how they get to work. Candidates who took cabs were more attractive to this manager than those who took trains and buses.
  5. Affinity Bias: Another form of bias occurs based on personality traits. Many interviewers are drawn to people who are similar to themselves. Often this is called “affinity bias.” Corporate relationship expert Tony Chatman reminds us, “If you have an interviewer who is detail-oriented, he or she is likely to hire someone who is introverted and detail-oriented, even if the job doesn’t call for it.”

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Typical Examples of Bias in Action:

1. Advice about “hard work” directed specifically toward one demographic and ethnicity.

Someone I know recently posted on Facebook to say “inner-city” people needed to learn about hard work and that I would be a good example for them. He had trouble making a rational defense of his comments.

How many times have kids from the inner-city who rise to the college ranks heard this rhetoric? Does this advice work for everyone? How do you know if someone “didn’t work hard”?

Implication: “Your people are lazy.”

2. Statements like “I believe the most qualified person should get the job!”

Often, this statement is used to criticize perceived instances of affirmative action. The thing is, not all of us needed affirmative action to enter college or get a job. My merits are just as good as anyone else’s. Why are you questioning them?

Implication: “People of color get an unfair advantage.”

3. Questions about a person’s demographic or ethnic background, like “What kind of name is this?” or “What nationality are you?”

If you can’t offer solid career advice without knowing someone’s nationality, ethnicity, gender identification, or skin color in 2017, then you give lousy and irrelevant career advice. It probably serves no one.

Implication: “You’re not white, so it’s weird.”

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4. Backhanded compliments, like “You’re so well-spoken/articulate.”

Are you surprised that I speak well? Or that I learned English so well? Why didn’t you say this to my white counterpart?

Implication: “It’s unusual for someone of your race to speak so well. You don’t belong here.”

5. Employers who only hire currently employed job seekers.

Many mega-talented people become unemployed due to circumstances beyond their control. People are laid off, politically ousted, or recipients of other unfortunate situations.

Implication: “Unemployed people are lazy. They will be desperate.”

6. Unreasonable impatience with a candidate who has an accent.

Being invited to an interview is a privilege, but when an interviewer rushes through a phone screening or other conversation, it can be discouraging or disconcerting. Job seekers with accents, unfortunately, face this problem often. When a person raises their voice while speaking to someone who has an accent, it’s not just rude – it’s a microaggression.

Implication: “You don’t belong here. You’re not welcome.”

7. Preferential treatment for men in STEM roles.

One study suggests men are often hired over women for jobs involving math and science. There are many women with aptitudes for math and science, recently illustrated in the movie Hidden Figures. In one scene, one of the central characters says, “There wasn’t a protocol for a female in an engineering class.” There isn’t much need to clarify the insidiousness at work further here.

Implication: “You don’t belong here. You’re not welcome.”

8. Using ‘cultural fit’ to exclude particular types of people.

Often, hiring authorities use “cultural fit” and “gut instinct” to make decisions. “Instinct” leads one to question the validity of their hiring decisions. It also makes one wonder: When employers complain about the skills gap, is it really because they can’t find the skills they need or is it because the people who have the skills aren’t “cultural fits”?

Job seekers should research the “culture” of a prospective employer. Are they using “skills gap” language to obscure their “cultural” hiring practices? Any workplace that seems overly homogenous may be doing just that.

Implication: “You lack the personality, like-mindedness, or ethnicity to be here.”

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It is unrealistic to think unconscious bias has a cure. There is no way to resolve all of it. It is deeply rooted in our daily lives and social interactions, and the lack of discussion about the subject breeds hostility. Unconscious biases are subtle, and they hurt people in subtle ways.

Let me also save you the trouble of trying to make the “victim card” argument: The reality of unconscious biases shows how thick-skinned the majority of job seekers have to become to succeed. This is the very quality employers like seeing in job seekers, and they should appreciate more the courage, patience, perseverance, persistence, and resilience job seekers display when facing biases.

About Mark Anthony Dyson

I am the "The Voice of Job Seekers!" I offer compassionate career and job search advice as I hack and re-imagine the job search process. You need to be "the prescription to an employer's job description." You must be solution-oriented and work in positions in companies where you are the remedy. Your job search must be a lifestyle, and your career must be in front of you constantly. You can no longer shed your aspirations at the change seasons. There are strengths you have that need constant use and development. Be sure you sign up to download my E-Book, "421 Modern Job Search Tips 2021!" You can find my career advice and work in media outlets such as Forbes, Inc., Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, Glassdoor, and many other outlets.

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I moderated a panel on Wealth Management for executives by Black Enterprise Magazine in October 2023 in Miami.

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I talked with John Tarnoff and Kerry Hannon of “The Second Act” podcast about job searching after 50 in October 2022.

I was on “The Career Confidante” podcast to talk about “boomerang employees” and “job fishing” in June 2022.

Making Job Search a Lifestyle With “Dr. Dawn Graham on Careers,” SiriusXM Ch. 132, Wharton School of Business May 2021

In May 2020, I talked with LinkedIn’s Senior News Editor Andrew Seaman on “#GetHired” Live.”

Beverly Jones, host of the NPR podcast “Jazzed About Work,” invited me back to talk job scams, job search trends, and AI tools in April 2024

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