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by Mark Anthony Dyson

4 Key Things To Do When Quitting Your Job

Editors note: Jason Sanders from Ivy Exec wrote the original article at IvyExec.com.  Ivy Exec is a content partner with The Voice of Jobseekers.

A number of years ago, I had an employee who became dissatisfied.  I think he became frustrated with his compensation, but he also hadn’t accomplished what he needed to earn an additional bonus.  Undoubtedly, he had other issues on his mind as well.

He finally decided that he needed to leave our firm, so he decided to interview with other companies.  After securing a new position, he came to me to ask for a bonus one last time.  He asked.  I answered, no.  He said, “In that case, I quit!”   I felt burned, and lied to, and inadequate all at the same time.

Informing your boss that you will be leaving your company is rarely and easy or enjoyable.  Most people face this situation several times over the course of their careers, and have the opportunity to keep or destroy relationships in the process.  You may be able to ease anxiety around this process by keeping a few clear principles in mind as you resign your position.

There are four fundamental things to keep in mind when giving notice:

  1. Be certain of your decision, and clear in your delivery of the news.
  2. Select who should hear directly from you, and in what order.
  3. Treat people the way you would want to be treated.
  4. Prepare.

The first thing you need to do before giving notice is to be absolutely sure you want to leave the firm, and understand why you have made this decision.  Everyone has their own tricks for making important decisions.  I knew a person, who flipped a coin to decide between two options.  He checked his reaction, and if he was happy with the coin flip, he followed it.  If, on the other hand, he was disappointed, then his emotional reaction steered him against the flip.

Personally, I like to talk with my wife, an advisor, or even talk with myself about important choices.  Vocalization is very important to me because I will hear whether the reasons for my decision are substantial or just rationalizations.  Some people prefer the plus/minus column method.  Whatever you choose, make sure you understand your reasoning, so that you will convey an unambiguous conclusion.

Clarity and decisiveness help people understand your state of mind, and help them begin to process their own reaction to your decision.  Recognize the importance of the initial presentation, and handle its delivery care.  I find it helpful to talk for a while after delivering bad news.  This gives people a chance to process the news before offering a response.  Start out in a clear, definitive way, “Unfortunately, I need to tell you that I have decided to leave the company…” Afterwards, you should plan to spend at least a couple of minutes talking without looking for any input from your boss.  This will give him the time to absorb your news, and adjust his mind set to the conversation you are about to have.  Once you see that the news has clicked in, you can begin to have a dialog.

You should try to make the conversation as short as possible, while remaining professional and respectful.  Ask for a 30-minute window, but plan for a 10 to 15 minute dialog.  This time frame allows time for the news to sink in, without forcing a hasty discussion about next steps.  The additional 15 minutes gives your boss time to adjust to the news before his next piece of business for the day.

During the conversation with your boss, the topic of transition may arise.  You should try to delay this discussion because you will both need time to process your emotional reactions.  Take your time and let the situation unfold.  Don’t try to force your way through it just to get past the bad feelings.

Bring a signed resignation letter with you to your meeting.  You should keep this safely hidden away until the end of your conversation.  Beginning the conversation by placing a letter on someone’s desk shows insecurity, and perhaps a lack of respect.  Placing it there at the end signifies finality.  A brief resignation letter brings the conversation to a close for you and for your boss.  Also, you will feel much better typing it before your discussion, rather than afterwards.

Travel schedules may interfere with giving notice face to face.  If this is the case, plan for a phone call.  Avoid giving notice by email, and avoid sending your letter of resignation in electronic form.  A written letter conveys substance, thought and finality, where emails may be taken more lightly, and may be shared more easily.  You want to keep that document in as few hands as possible.

During discussions with you boss, one possible reaction is to try to keep you in the company.  If you do not present your decision clearly, you leave room for the possibility of a counteroffer.  You should consider the possibility of a counteroffer and what its impact could be upon you before giving notice.  If you have any hesitation, then you are really in a salary negotiation, not a departure.  You can find a separate article about the dangers of counteroffers here: http://www.executivesearchinsider.com/2009/01/counteroffers.html

Once you have told your boss, try to relax and get away from the office.  You need to let things settle and get ready for transition discussions and notifying your colleagues.  If possible, the best time to give notice is on Friday.  This will give you and your boss time to absorb the impact before re-engaging.

If possible, revisit the discussion with your boss before notifying colleagues and clients.  This demonstrates respect for your supervisor and the business interests of the company.  Once you feel comfortable with his reaction, you need to inform your co-workers.

Think about the order of whom you will tell, and whether you need to talk with them face-to-face or over the phone.  You should try to move quickly through these conversations to exercise some measure of control over the flow of information.  You may also want to ask for a short period of confidentiality with the first people you notify.  This will give you time to begin to set up important relationships for the future.  You may use email or voicemail to ask colleagues to speak with you, but never leave notice that way.  If they are not important enough to tell personally, then let them find out through someone else.

Situations with co-workers vary so much that that it is difficult to offer specific advice about individual conversations.  In general, you should take your time to consider who to talk with, try to have these conversations all on one day, and give the news in the way that you would want to receive it.

Giving notice comes down to preserving relationships.  If you didn’t need any connections, you could just walk out of the building and never come back.   Your actions in this situation reveal your character and your ability to create sustainable connections.  The best guide is a very old piece of advice, treat others the way you would want to be treated.  With a little preparation and sensitivity, you will find your own path.

Filed Under: Job, Jobseekers

by Mark Anthony Dyson

How To Shop For A Job Interview on a Budget

How To Shop For A Job Interview on a Budget

Editor’s note: Brandhyze Stanley is a frugal expert, and knows how to find high-quality clothes at the best prices you’ll see anywhere. Her guest post offers some advice job seekers whose money is too tight to mention. See her bio at the end of her post and highly recommend spending time at her perusing her frugal fashion advice.

FINALLY got the job interview, but now don’t have a thing to wear?  That’s totally understandable when many job seekers may be in between jobs. But before you fret over your workforce gear…here are 5 tips to help you shop, save, and look great for that next interview.

  1. Buy a quality suit in a neutral color – Clothes can really affect the outcome of your interview, so be strategic in your choices.  Pick a classic neutral colored suit (think black, brown, navy, or dark gray) to get the most mileage out of your investment.  When you are building a wardrobe and are on a budget, I say it’s a good idea to cover your basics first.  So, ladies I wouldn’t go with that fuchsia option this trip; or guys I would leave that really busy suit there on the rack for the next adventurous soul. Instead, go with something a little more classic, and try places like Marshalls, TJMaxx, and Burlington Coat Factory for great name brands, at a fraction of the cost.
  1. Buy all components of suit – I say buy all matching coordinates of that staple suit, so you can mix them and match to get the most wears out of it. Ladies, that means if you purchase a jacket, skirt, and slacks; one day you can wear the jacket, a nice blouse with a pop of color, and the slacks. And another day you can wear a sweater with a belt around the waist and the pencil skirt.  Guys, for you that means you can wear the jacket and slacks one day with a subdued tie; and another day wear the vest with the slacks and a tie with a pop of color.
  1. Accessories make a suit go a long way – Accessories can completely change a look.  So, for women this may mean trying different statement necklaces, patterned tights, earrings, or scarves.  And men…I know you all feel
  2. courtesy of Frugal-nomics.comyou have few opportunities to express yourselves with accessories, but feel to try different patterned ties/ascots, a nice watch or a belt (just don’t get too crazy).I usually find some really great accessories on eBay…..while I may have to wait a little longer for them to be shipped, they usually are in great shape and come at an insanely low price.
  1. Invest in a great pair of shoes– Both ladies and gents need to invest in a durable/quality pair of black and brown shoes (ladies, I’d even go so far as to recommend getting both colors in a pump and a flat for those long office hours).For deals on shoes, sign up for companies like 6pm.com and DSW’s mailing list and their social media pages for first dibs on coupons and promotions.  Also, remember, if you wait til major holidays like Memorial Day, Veteran’s Day, President’s Day….you can score some extra savings.
  1. Try your local consignment/thrift shops – I personally feel thrift store shopping is ALWAYS a good option.  I should know because it has afforded me the opportunity to COMPLETELY revamp my wardrobe.  Once the queen of Target (I still love it), I’m now able to regularly rock designer labels like Louis Vuitton, Theory, and Oscar de la Renta because of 2nd hand stores (did I mention I got these brands for less than a $1/piece?).  Men, just so you know….so many thrift shops have great suits that may need just a little tailoring for that custom fit, and you can stock up on oxfords/button downs made by great designers like Ralph Lauren and Thomas Pink–you just have to know where to look. So, shop your local thrift store chains or try online at places like Goodwill and Housing Works.

 Brandhyze Stanley is the chief voice of Frugal-nomics.com; a platform designed to share with women how to live and look fabulous on a dime — created after a massive unexpected layoff forced her to hone in on her true passion. Brandhyze has been featured on The View, The Early Show, The Today Show, MTVStyle, Essence Magazine, and TJMaxx.com. A Wilhelmina Model for nearly a decade, with a Business Degree from Loyola University Chicago, Brandhyze currently contributes Style and DIY tips to Newsday Westchester and the popular How-To Site, eHow. Brandhyze is a huge thrifter and a lover of all good deals, follow her on Twitter @MyFrugalnomics and on Facebook at Facebook.com/Frugalnomics.

Filed Under: Interview, Jobseekers Tagged With: Brandhyze Stanley, Frugal, Interview, Jobs Seekers

by Mark Anthony Dyson

A Moment with Amit De, CEO of Careerleaf

 

Here is a fresh look at a new job seeker community, Careerleaf.com, an all-in-one job search platform that cuts the time to apply in half, publicly launched. Careerleaf’s partner-driven platform helps job seekers search for jobs, showcase themselves, and track and manage the entire process. You can read more at Careerleaf.com.

Amit De was gracious enough to find a few minutes provide some answers to questions I had. I will say that he had to correct me when I called the site a job board. In fact, the site was created to avoid the feel and function of any job board site. It was his own frustrating research experience using job boards that inspired this site.

What myths do you tackle and debunk with Careerleaf that makes you standout?

We provide a community for candidates that lets them access niche and other job boards, while structuring their job search effectively and efficiently.

What were some of the challenges you faced in starting out?

Building out the features that would help the candidate most, as our solution focuses on the candidate. However, getting the right mix for users is always a challenge.

Please explain the thought process of what you liked and didn’t like about job boards that you were using?

Just searching the large boards, where you have postings which receive hundreds of applications and get no responses. There needs to be a more efficient way of finding the right jobs.

How did you come up with Tracklet?

We created the Careerleaf Tracklet to help job seekers easily track and manage their search. Many job seekers don’t just look for jobs in one place, so Tracklet was created to allow them to easily manage all of their searches across the Web.

Was your goal at the beginning was to cut the initial time from the application to the search? 

One of the goals was to cut the time. But overall, to create a more efficient system.

I saw a screen shot of the job seeker profile and it looked very attractive. Are there other considerations to the job seeker profile that would make it stand out to potential employers and recruiters?

There are lots of other features we can add, but too much is also not good. Hence, we felt this was a good balance to allow candidates to showcase themselves efficiently and tailor their profile.

So what would be key elements that a user must have to attract employers and recruiters on their profile?

A fully completed and well-thought out profile will certainly give users a better chance of attracting employers. Job seekers should focus on creating a strong summary of themselves in their bio section to allow employers and recruiters to better understand what they are searching for.

Filed Under: Career, Jobseekers Tagged With: Amit De, Careerleaf, Jobseekers

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I moderated a panel on Wealth Management for executives by Black Enterprise Magazine in October 2023 in Miami.

I was interviewed on Scripps News show, “The Why!” 4/13/2023

I talked with John Tarnoff and Kerry Hannon of “The Second Act” podcast about job searching after 50 in October 2022.

I was on “The Career Confidante” podcast to talk about “boomerang employees” and “job fishing” in June 2022.

Making Job Search a Lifestyle With “Dr. Dawn Graham on Careers,” SiriusXM Ch. 132, Wharton School of Business May 2021

In May 2020, I talked with LinkedIn’s Senior News Editor Andrew Seaman on “#GetHired” Live.”

Beverly Jones, host of the NPR podcast “Jazzed About Work,” invited me back to talk job scams, job search trends, and AI tools in April 2024

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